Meet Selma Blair and Arthur Saint Bleick. Selma took a few minutes to share with us why she decided to be our first celebrity get REAL™ mom. You'll hear about her own food and health journey, and some funny childhood memories with her best friend Dr. Sue.
Photography by Melissa Hutchinson
Angelle: Hi. I'm Angelle Batten of get REAL for kids™; a non profit that I started along with my business partner Dr. Sue and Dr. Sue is on the line with me. Hey, Dr. Sue.
Dr. Sue: Hello.
Angelle: Great to have you. get REAL for kids™ as I mentioned is a non-profit that we started because we're just passionate about helping kids and their parents live their best life. There are two parts to get REAL for kids™. One is what we call get REAL and Give Back™ and our first giving program is going to be the 'Planting Seeds for Health and Happiness' program. We're going to grant school communities the funds to build organic gardens and receive a multimedia resource kit about food, health and parenting. The other part of get REAL for kids™ is the get REAL Revolution™ and that is about getting real for kids by changing the way we eat, treat illness and parent. It's a movement for all of us as parents and caregivers to really easily understand how to feed our families real food, how to heal our children's illnesses (not just medicate their symptoms), and how to help our children grow to be the best versions of themselves. We know a few small changes can transform a child's health and happiness.
The reason for our call today is to introduce you to our first celebrity get REAL™ mom. We're thrilled she's helping us launch the get REAL Revolution™. I won't keep you in suspense any longer. Our first celebrity get REAL™ mom is actress Selma Blair. Welcome Selma.
Selma: Thank you so much. I am very honored to be a part of get REAL for kids™.
Angelle: Thank you and congratulations to you because we can still say you're a new mom. You're in that category. Baby Arthur Saint is about six months old right now I believe?
Selma: Yes, he just turned six months and he took his first two steps unassisted today. I really have to be there for him all the time because he is such an early walker so he's also an early faller.
Angelle: He's going to keep you busy, I know. We were out to see him for the photo shoot and I can definitely attest to not only how adorable he is but he's just so charismatic too. He's like such a little people person isn't he?
Selma: He is. He's very engaging. He came out that way - like a shrunken little boy. He's like a Thumbelina version of a five year old. He's always really present and really full of life, with a great sense of humor. A lot of that I attest to diet - I ate really, really cleanly and really consciously when I was pregnant. I mean who knows but I think there's no way that hurt. A lot of the reason I ate that way is because of another mom I know, Alicia Silverstone; I followed her diet for pregnancy, The Kind Diet. Our children are very, very similar and also our children don't sleep a lot because they're both too busy walking at a young age!
Angelle: Definitely he'll keep you busy. Selma and Dr. Sue have been friends, best friends since high school and we thought it would be a lot of fun to get them on the phone together and have them share their story and talk about being friends and moms and just let all of our listeners know, let them in on why Selma you decided to be the first celebrity mom for get REAL for kids™. It's not just because you're Dr. Sue's friend, but you sort of have given us a clue to the fact that you've been on your own get REAL journey with food and health. So I'll let you tell a little bit more about that in a few minutes but let's just jump in. I would love it Selma if you would get us started and tell us how you and Dr. Sue met and became friends - and you can definitely include any juicy details.
Dr. Sue: That's a scary thing to let Selma start with!
Selma: Dr. Sue is such a good girl and always has been. There's nothing too juicy to say about Sue but I will not let Sue talk about me because I have not always been a wholesome girl. I was a rotten teenager and it's only with mommyhood that I think I'm shifting. But, I met Dr. Sue...Dr. Sue that cracks me up. That makes you sound like you're a ship doctor with that title. I don't know it reminds me of Love Boat, but not to belittle it because doctors are the most incredible thing and Dr. Sue is the most incredible woman I know. Okay, I met Dr. Sue the first day of our orientation.
Dr. Sue: Do you remember what you were wearing?
Selma: I was wearing blue ballet flats, black jeans and a bright blue leather jacket that belonged to a dead boy and that was my intro. Sue was like "nice jacket". And I'm like "yes; it belongs to a dead person". I got it at a vintage shop and I heard the boy had died or something. How could she not fall in love with me? We were so diametrically opposed. I think Sue was probably a little curious at what a freak show I was, and I was a little curious at how good Sue was. We were instant best friends.
Dr. Sue: She's a lot of fun. You can just sit back and listen to Selma. That's the nice thing about it. It's pure entertainment really. You don't have to say much of anything. You can just sit there - which is what I ended up doing on our trip out to LA. People were saying "Are you okay Sue?" Yep, I'm here - just watching everything going by me. Just like our first meeting (Selma and I), and the Fraser varsity jacket from a dead boy.
Angelle: It's so funny. Some more funny stories, tell us some more. Let us in on some more funny stories.
Dr. Sue: There's a lot of funny stories but I don't know if they're necessarily appropriate.
Selma: I really was not a get REAL for kids™ type of girl growing up. I didn't eat well or drink well. I did a lot of things that I have to make up for now - a lot of lost time. But Sue was always someone that was really conscious of what she ate at that time. She was a vegetarian mostly.
Dr. Sue: Yeah, that's right. I actually was a vegetarian.
Selma: I thought that was freakish because the mainstay of my diet - other than some decent home cooking - was bacon double cheeseburgers, right Sue? That's what I like the most.
Dr. Sue: You know what's funny Selma, I did think of a funny story! There was four of us in high school that were best of friends. It was Kelly, Selma, myself and...(Selma: Fran). Oh my gosh, Fran is going to kill me. Yes, Fran. The four of us hung out. Fran and Kelly are really good at sports - like really good. Then there's Selma and I - who want to be really good, but we were not so good. We tended to do the same sports - Selma and I played field hockey and Fran and Kelly were superstar tennis players. But in the winter season they (Kelly and Fran) played volleyball. Selma and I said "We can do that. We can do volleyball." We totally tried out for the team.
Selma: We wound up being managers.
Dr. Sue: We didn't make varsity or JV, but they said you two can be managers! (laughing)
Selma: Remember when Kelly's sister worked for Reebok and she gave the whole team great custom Reebok shoes - and we didn't get a pair because we were lowly managers!
Dr. Sue: We were like peeping through the window looking into the gym with all of them in their sweet Reebok shoes and then there was the two of us talking.
Selma: It's not that we weren't athletic. We're just not team sport people. You're a great skier. I'm a great horseback rider. I'm a good figure skater. We're definitely athletic in our own ways, but I definitely had a dream of being a team player and I'm not. I'm not and we desperately wanted to be. One day we're going to get our Reebok volleyball shoes.
Dr. Sue: That's so funny. I love that story.
Angelle: It gave you two a lot of time to really bond looking through the window and hanging out together.
Selma: Yes. I'm sure Sue was probably telling me to put out the cigarette I was trying to light up or something. That's how I rolled. No wonder I couldn't play team sports I was too busy, too busy bursting my alveoli as Sue informed me in 11th grade. "Blair I don't think it's good. You're smoking so much you're bursting many alveoli that you're going to need later in life. They don't regenerate." It was all that even as a young girl.
Angelle: Which may be why Dr. Sue, you decided to become a medical doctor.
Dr. Sue: Selma do you remember if I wanted to be doctor in high school? I honestly don't remember that.
Selma: I don't remember either. I knew Fran was going to be a lawyer and I didn't know for sure that you wanted to be a doctor, but you did like biology. But you did not like cracking the fetal pig's jaw. There were a few things that I could deal with - the down and dirty stuff.
Dr. Sue: You did, that's right. You liked that dissection.
Selma: I did. I loved biology, but I didn't. You were always really, really such a focused student -especially I remember in biology. I remember for those labs, you were really well prepared - but I had no idea.
Dr. Sue: I was a Type A girl.
Selma: I'm so proud of you that you've also gone into such different modes of healing with the homeopathic medicine and everything. It's a saving grace for more parents and children to get more educated about how we can really - not just treat the symptoms - but treat everything as a whole.
Dr. Sue: I remember you being in a couple of school plays, but I don't remember knowing that you wanted to be an actor.
Selma: I don't think I dared to say I wanted to be an actor. I remember Kelly said "oh my God, you're going to be in a soap opera." I remember kind of being insulted - like that's what she thinks I'm going to be on a soap opera! But now, I'd be pretty happy to be on a soap opera. It looks like fun. I remember I wanted to be a writer or a photographer. I remember I did a play by T. S. Elliot called Murder in the Cathedral. Mr. Toner, my English teacher, came up to me afterwards and said "I think you should be an actor." Instead of being excited, I was heartbroken because he was my English teacher and I wanted to be a writer! When your English teacher is telling you - "you should be an actor" - you realize you're not a good enough writer to be a writer. But he was the first that said you're going to be an actor, you should be an actor. That was funny because I was also really horrible in that play. At intermission nobody came back. It was so boring.
Dr. Sue: I never heard that story.
Angelle: That's so powerful. As a teacher myself, I love hearing that a teacher had some influence for you. Tell us a little bit more about your past Selma, on how you ended up actually making it to LA and doing all the things you've done.
Selma: After I went to the University of Michigan (so did Sue), actually I joined her there a little later. I went to Kalamazoo College first and then went to University of Michigan. I did do some plays at Kalamazoo College and a little bit at Michigan, but I was really in the arts school. As soon as I graduated, I went out to New York to try and be a photographer or actor whichever came first. I wound up finding some small parts. I was living in the Salvation Army. It was a pretty decent one - an all women's one. I ended up getting some small parts, and then I found an agent. She said you should go out to LA for pilot season, so I couple of years later I did. I started working right away and making a living. I always say oh, I've been acting for eight years and then I really look at the time table and uh. I've been an actor a lot longer than that! I got stuck on eight years, but that will be my story. It's more like 12 now.
Angelle: That's great. You two are thousands of miles apart but talk a little bit about how you both fit into each other's worlds now and how you stay connected - just what's going on with your relationship with each other.
Selma: I'm going to talk because I'm selfish and I'm an actress. I'm a narcissist too.
Angelle: You go right ahead.
Selma: Sue is the most caring, loving friend I have and she's so busy obviously with so many children and I have one but before that I was busy with my own travels and whatever so we didn't talk as much. Sue will always be my best friend. We didn't talk enough, but when we did I always felt totally understood. Sue is so intuitive and so present. No matter how little or how much we talked, we could always pick up.
Dr. Sue: I have a funny story about that Blair. After I just had a miscarriage. When I was trying to conceive our first, I had several miscarriages. Blair just happened to call (after one of them), and I said I'm just really sad. I could cry now just thinking about it. I was on the stairs. I said Blair, I'm just really sad. Then she goes what kind of sad are you? Are you in the boxes of chocolate sad? Do you have a bottle of vodka in your hands sad? Like what kind of sad? I thought, Oh my God, this girl totally gets it.
Selma: I had to label sad.
Dr. Sue: It's like that now. Time goes by. When you have soul connecting relationships, you can just dive right in. Who else would say that to me - categorize your sadness so that I'll know exactly where you are - so I can help you. Funny.
Selma: Oh Susie, she feels so strong about that. Arthur recently had a problem with vaccinations. When I was pregnant with him, I thought 'I'm not going to vaccinate'. Some people that I really cared about also told me that there's alternatives. Or if your son's healthy or if you're breastfeeding you don't necessarily need to vaccinate. I was on the fence on which ones I should do. Do I do any? I was kind of pushed and pulled between different sets of friends that I trusted, and what was happening with their children. I did do a lot of vaccinations those first 2 months, not all of them. He reacted fine, and I did more at four months. He did not have a good reaction, but I haven't talked about it publicly because I don't want to say 'No, vaccinations are absolutely horrible', because I don't know enough. But for my story, vaccinations were absolutely not the right thing for me. The whooping cough one was too much for his (Arthur's) body and he had a horrible reaction and he went into shock and I was beside myself, guilt ridden and worried, and most of all shocked - how will I revive my child who now has some really aggravated problems. Sue put me in touch with another homeopath who really helped me, Glenda. What's Glenda's last name? She really was so helpful.
Dr. Sue: Glenda Malone.
Selma: Glenda Malone, she was so helpful and patient and really put him on a course for homeopathics to really help bring him back. Sue was right there, and she was really calm about it. So I just kept my nutrition up and put him on the homeopathics. Now he's back to not sleeping and making me crazy, but I personally am not vaccinating right now. I don't know what the future holds, but I'm more aware of what it means to vaccinate and maybe some children really are just too sensitive for it.
Angelle: Thanks for sharing your story.
Selma: I don't mean for people to get all riled up. It's such a heated topic. How could you not vaccinate? You're putting other people at risk. I do think there's responsible ways to deal with it, and keep your baby safe and other children safe.
Angelle: It's just so important for parents - to be able to make that conscious decision for their own child is really important. So thanks for sharing that. This whole mom thing you now have in common - so what do you think, when you think about each other as moms? Did you have any expectations of what the other one would be like as a mom, or what surprises you about the other, or inspires you?
Dr. Sue: Go ahead Selma, I'll let you go first. Let me know what a good mom I am.
Selma: I can't even talk, but I want to hear. She doesn't see me enough with baby Saint, but I know she knows I'm in love with him. Sue is so perfect at everything, I'm not even going there.
Dr. Sue: Oh my gosh, good golly. The thing with Selma is that we've had lots of conversations about family and planning, and when is her baby going to come, and how is it going to come. I think we always had in our heads that maybe she might adopt someday. It would be a four or five year old. For some reason that totally resonated with me. Selma is super silly and really, really good with kids, especially the toddler or preschool group and even grade school. Just that get-down-and-dirty and be silly attitude with the kids. She can totally relate to them on that kid level. That just made perfect sense to me (that she'd adopt). I didn't really ever envision her with an infant, a baby.
Selma: Nor did I.
Dr. Sue: But that is what I think is so mind blowing beautiful about the Universe. In all our conversations we never really put an infant in her arms, and here is beautiful Arthur Saint in her arms.
Selma: And, he looks like a five year old in an infant's body.
Dr. Sue: Exactly.
Selma: Everyone says, "That's a boy not a baby!". So I got a boy in a baby's body.
Dr. Sue: I think it's wonderful. I just think the surprises are wonderful and I think being a mom is the greatest God given gift but also the hardest one that I've ever received. I'm sure Selma feels the same way.
Selma: My baby is up every hour and that is a much bigger discussion that I am totally surprised at. I'm brittle and I'm brought down to my knees more and more. I am relying on the community of women that I love, and that love me. And you find out that there's people that care. Women that could give a rat's bum about you before you're a mom, really come out and help because I think it's the one thing we all get and know - that the babies are loved and need to be loved. And the mommies needs to be loved. So I've found that as much as I'm reluctant to reach out to anyone except for Sue, that women are really so full of love when it comes to other women as moms. That has been a really beautiful thing, and I know that we're all capable of coming together as a community to help raise each other's children and to help nourish each other emotionally and nutritionally. It's so amazing.
Dr. Sue: That's really what it's all about is coming together.
Selma: Coming together and some of these people say things are so isolated. I say give us half a chance because we do rally. When I am brought to my knees crying because I am so sleep deprived, I am so shocked at how many women are say okay, I'm coming over. What do you need? What are you eating? What's going into your breastmilk? What can I do? Let me just hold the baby all night so you can sleep. No one's ever wanted to do that for me before, before kids were involved. Maybe they have, but I just haven't reached out. But I really feel that we are all amazingly loving and capable when it comes to the care of our children and each other's children.
Angelle: That's beautiful. It just has such a way, motherhood, of making us so vulnerable and strong at the same time.
Selma: Yeah it does.
Angelle: Selma, this kind of leads right into the whole wondering what inspired you to be the first celebrity mom for this ‘get REAL’ Revolution. I know you talked about how you really respect Sue and her work, but more than that what inspired you to say yes, this is a great time for me to jump on board?
Selma: Of course what Sue stands for is everything I would love to be as a mom - plus my box of crazy on top which I can't avoid so I have to incorporate that. But I see such a need in our country, and probably other countries but I don't live there, for proper nourishment. Our population is massive and all the processed food (that as a tired mom, I even reach for). When my whole pregnancy, and probably the only reason I could get pregnant so easily was that I was so well nourished. I've never been pregnant in my life and then I go on this cleanse - eating really whole foods and so many greens and stopped eating processed foods and drinking alcohol - and I just got pregnant immediately and gave birth to an incredibly healthy child.
I can attest to it - that nutrition really counts. Then once my child was born of course something hits you. Look at what's available in our country - I'm so worried about the state of our public schools and the nutrition in most of them. I'm just a regular working actress, so I'll be sending my child to public school more likely than not, and I'm really worried. I don't want my child eating all these things that are going to cause him frustration and aggravation and sleep problems and just problems with his whole health and that's what's available, I mean more readily available and it frightens me. I want people to know - and it hurts me - that people can't feed their child a pear because it's too expensive. The child can only eat half a hamburger and some cheese doodles because that is the reality of what is affordable. It breaks my heart because more and more we're going to get further and further away from what nutrition is and it's a vicious cycle I see as a new mom. I don't have time to put him down he's so active, and for the first time I'm reaching for sugar which is just going to exacerbate his own energy levels and my own. It just keeps going and going.
We just need to raise awareness and develop a palate for these children because the processed foods are really easy to eat and they're really yummy in a way. But your palate can get used to the things that are actually going to feed you and give you proper sustenance throughout the day. If children can learn how to make it and parents get involved (or caregivers or whoever is with the child the most), we can be teaching kids to garden. I just know that if the children are involved and know what they're eating and know what it means to have this kind of diet, then it will be much more fun and accessible. People who can't afford to buy some greens, maybe they have a little tiny patch outside to at least grow one thing green- to just get that taste in the kid's mouth.
Angelle: Yes. Dr. Sue, when you think about all this and everything that Selma was sharing, what is your prayer for children around the world and how do you see the get REAL Revolution™ playing a role in your prayer.
Dr. Sue: I guess my prayer is just that kids are happy and healthy and living life to their fullest potential and I really think that means that (like Selma was saying) we really need to get REAL together - by changing the way we eat, changing the way we treat illness and changing the way that we parent. That's where I think coming together as a community is key and get REAL for Kids™ is going to do that for us. Like Selma was saying about mother bonding. It's not just moms, it's not just dads, it's the whole everyone coming together and supporting each other - that this is important and that we do have to make it a priority for our kids to be healthy and happy.
Angelle: Any last words from either one of you?
Dr. Sue: Just that I love Selma Blair.
Selma: I love you Sue. I love that you're doing this and I know that you're a busy mom and that just proves how much you love all us moms and all our kids and the future, we want them to have a good future and be able to be healthy and loved and know how to love and they must have all the right things firing in their brain to be able to do that so that we can have grandchildren and everything can go on.
Angelle: Thank you. Thank you both so much and thank you Selma not only for your time, but for sharing so much of yourself and your story with us. It's beautiful.
Selma: My pleasure, thank you.
Angelle: We really are so grateful and it's really great for all of us non-celeb moms to just be able to connect with you in this way and hear that you have shared some of the same struggles and concerns we have. You share some of the same highs and lows of being a mom, so it's really great. And thanks Dr. Sue for giving us a peek into your life as well.
Dr. Sue: Absolutely.
Angelle: I want to say thanks to every listener to the call we really hoped you enjoyed it as much as we did and we want to invite you to go to getREALforkids.com. You'll be able to see photos of Selma and baby Saint there, and also learn more about the get REAL Revolution™.
We've got a beautiful video there for you to watch. You can also connect with our community at facebook.com/getREALforkids and also twitter.com/getREALforkids. It's time for the get REAL Revolution™. Together we're an unstoppable force and we will turn millions of kids around to health and happiness and make the world a better place for everyone. We're just so grateful that we're all in this journey together. Blessings to everyone from myself and from Dr. Sue and from Selma Blair.
Selma: Thank you. Lots of love guys.
Dr. Sue: Love you bye.
Selma: Love you, okay. Mwaah, bye.